Martin Hayes talks about the tradition that keeps on giving

I was once in the Irish town of Kilkenny on a Monday night, almost universally the quietest night of the week for live music. Yet, of the dozen pubs I chanced upon, only two didn’t have people playing, with the music always Irish traditional. The good burghers of Kilkenny obviously saw no point in staying home and watching screens, when they could be out enjoying music, conviviality and a pint.

Martin Hayes.

When I relate this to Martin Hayes, doyen of traditional Irish fiddlers, he says it was the same in his village in County Clare, and is simply the norm. He agrees it tightly bonds musicians’ community, although he’s less convinced it bonds the wider community.

Hayes can still hear differences in the tradition in various parts of Ireland, but an increased homogeneity is the inevitable result of people’s wider musical exposure. “The previous regional styles were a measure of relative isolation, in one sense,” he observes. “A deeper examination of regional styles always finds that they were never absolute, and were often influenced by one or two musicians of significant quality who made everybody else want to play this way. So at the core of regionalism in music were often unique, creative individuals.

“So instead of trying to emulate or salvage these things in some artificial way, I’ve always felt there is a unique opportunity for the individual to find creative possibilities… You can be open to all of it, and then if you can internalise it, you can maybe let yourself go a little bit and see what voice begins to emerge.”

Reverence for the tradition, therefore, must be balanced with keeping the music living in the present tense. “We tend to imagine tradition as a set thing,” says Hayes. “You think they’ve been doing this for hundreds of years, and actually they haven’t. If you look at it carefully, you’ll see enormous development, change and evolution even in the recorded history of the music through the 20th century… The tradition has continually adapted and responded to the world around it and has attempted to be relevant and to survive in an evolving musical and cultural world.”

Hayes can still gain new insights into a tune he may have known for 50 years. “It could reveal itself to me in a new way at any moment,” he says. “And of course people are writing great traditional Irish music at the moment as well. So you have a fully explored body of past music, you have the evolving music that you personally already know, and then the continuous writing of music. So there’s no shortage of possibility.”

Martin Hayes. Photos supplied.

The young Hayes learned from people playing in his home, rather than from records, radio or books. “I could see the body language of the musician,” he says, “and I could actually see where there’s freedom and where there’s struggle. You could learn something about the instrument by watching somebody else navigate it.”

His unique tone and phrasing give almost anything he plays an ineffable sadness. “When I was growing up, oddly enough for a young teenager,” he recalls, “I felt that that kind of wistfulness was the definition of music. That’s what I thought music’s ultimate aim was, and I wanted to access that feeling. Now that might sound sad or dreary, but I didn’t experience it that way at all. Ultimately – maybe in accessing any part of the world of our human feelings – it felt glorious on some level as well. It almost felt like some kind of profundity had been touched if I could get into that world, musically.”

Later, he welcomed joy into his music, and envisions concerts as containing both, alongside such qualities as simplicity, lightness and propulsive energy.

Since his long-term collaborator, guitarist Dennis Cahill, died in 2022, Hayes has enjoyed working in diverse combinations. He brings to Australia guitarist Kyle Sanna (from his Common Ground Ensemble), who’s approach is unlike the purely acoustic Cahill. “He’ll be using a hollow-body jazz guitar, an amp and some pedals,” explains Hayes, “and he is a real improviser, in the jazz sense.”

Martin Hayes: Melbourne Recital Centre, February 24, Chatswood Concourse, February 25, Brisbane Powerhouse February 27.

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Martin Hayes, virtuosic Irish fiddler, and one of the most significant talents in Irish traditional music will return to Australia February 2026.